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Why do good girls like bad boys?

Abstract:
Among the women I know: One is sleeping with an engaged man, one is in love with a man who has hit her on more than one occasion, one is cheating on her boyfriend, one lets her man get away with anything he wants and one is dating a man who still calls me looking for a hook up....

jdo_cmq

posted 7/23/04 @ 11:20 PM CST

The answer is girls want a challenge, not some pushover. Nice guys do always get the shaft. Girls always end up wanting to be "just friends" with them too once they find this out. They would rather have someone that is unwilling to chase them and seems unavailable, rather than someone who is attentive to their needs. Go figure.
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Gordana

posted 2/06/07 @ 7:59 AM CST

Originally posted by

jdo_cmq

 The answer is girls want a challenge, not some pushover. Nice guys do always get the shaft. Girls always end up wanting to be "just friends" with them too once they find this out. They would rather have someone that is unwilling to chase them and seems unavailable, rather than someone who is attentive to their needs. Go figure.

Its not that girls want a challenge its that they want a guy who can tell them that they're beautiful while still keeping his ground. Some girls just feel the need for a girl to chase them,it like a sense of attraction if a girl sees a girl not willing to chase she starts to wonder if hes actually into her. Its not true that girls don't want guys attentive to their needs, in fact they'd rather have it that way. Nice guys are not pushed aside its just that bad boys have higher confidence levels, nice guys tend to shy away from girls. A girl would a nice guy but you have to find the right girl :)
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Adam Reckner

posted 5/31/07 @ 9:56 AM CST

If a girl breaks up with for a bad boy, how can you get them back?
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lbunkley

posted 1/05/08 @ 9:21 PM CST

Originally posted by

jdo_cmq

 The answer is girls want a challenge, not some pushover. Nice guys do always get the shaft. Girls always end up wanting to be "just friends" with them too once they find this out. They would rather have someone that is unwilling to chase them and seems unavailable, rather than someone who is attentive to their needs. Go figure.


i agree i am a 25 year old law school student. i meet a gentlemen in law school who all will consider to be a good guy. but the problem is he know that. he lies, cheats, is controlling and a push over all in one. he is not opened minded, bias, and ignorant to the truths of the world. but why attending school. there was this guy who continued to pursue me. after three months of him being consistent i finally gave him a chance. now i just learned he has three kids, and is the equialent of al pacinos cousin. he is a all out bad boy. but i am so drawn to him. i dont care what he does, i cant leave him alone. while the good guy with good credit no kids i push away. i dont know what it is. i want to like the good guy but he annoys me. i know i need to leave the bad one alone, but i cant. i am having an internal war. the orgasms i have with the bad boy is off the chain. with the good boy its like whatever, do we have to have sex again!lol but honestly i dont know what it is. i know the bad boy is no good. but i am all over him. i think i need counseling!!!!!
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Kenney

posted 3/20/08 @ 7:43 AM CST

Originally posted by

jdo_cmq

 The answer is girls want a challenge, not some pushover. Nice guys do always get the shaft. Girls always end up wanting to be "just friends" with them too once they find this out. They would rather have someone that is unwilling to chase them and seems unavailable, rather than someone who is attentive to their needs. Go figure.


Don't worry about getting her back you see any girl that falls for a cocky bad boy is not really the type of girl you want, get a smart girl a real girl that knows the ones that should the loudest that are the most insecure the ones that act bad are really the small timers trying to look like there something!.. just like the poorest scratter's wear the biggest gold chain to act rich! think about it.
Be your self and the right girl will work it out.
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kambo

posted 7/25/04 @ 7:29 PM CST

Crystall's elusive search for Mr. Right

Who doesn't like a good adventure? Crystal Lindell's notes on 'Why do good girls like bad boys?' does offer a challenge to a woman interested in winning the attention of a Cro-Magnon. And should her adventure be successful she will be able to applaud herself with the certainty she has raised her self-esteem by having snagged a dumb animal. But let's take a moment and reconsider the term 'nice guy 'and use 'gentleman' in its place. A gentleman will display the characteristics of honor, respect, courtesy and kindness to name a few. How is it, Crystal, you were unable to use these values in your description of a 'nice guy'. Were these values elusive to you? You and your friend's values denote a comfort zone more akin to the 'bad boy'. In there lies your security, hence, the attraction. It is not so comforting to have to step up to the values of a gentleman when you do not possess the knowledge. Stepping up requires the use of your intellect, not low morals and low self-esteem. I also take issue with your statement about woman who know what they want and feel it is worth waiting for are called losers and single mothers are immoral. On the contrary, these woman show conviction, confidence and courage, three more words you might want to consider. What astonishes me is that you believe a nice guy would want to recognize you with what you and your friends aspire to with your behavior and your twisted ideas of what makes a healthy relationship. Take some time for a little introspection, Crystal, and you might discover that your need to be abused is what attracts the 'bad boys' to you. The 'good guys' do not find anything sexy in abusive behavior or self-inflicted flagellation. So, Crystal, from a gentleman's perspective you are most likely where you belong with Mr. Wrong.
One of the nice guys
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Josh

posted 8/18/09 @ 12:22 PM CST

From one "nice guy" to the other. Thank you. This topic has baffled me since high-school. I can remember every little girl running around was dating the guy who was poised to drop out next week after the championship football game because of his grades. Teen pregnancy, abuse, sex it just seems to me that females have NO rspect for themselves. Either that or they don't know what a real relationship is. Whether or not you have an orgasm should have absolutely NOTHING to do with a relationship and where it stands because you shouldn't be screwing around before marriage anyways. That's why we have the oh dare I say it IMMORAL single mothers and sky-scraping divorce rates. I have splendid news for all of you ladies out there who think the loser who has cheated on you, hit you, uses your body to satisfy his, lies to you, leaves you, doesn't work and has fooled you into thinking all men are pigs and that he loves you. It's your own fault for being with him and it's your own fault for haveing no esteem to yourself. Why not try dating a guy you met in church instead of one at the club who cares about nothing other than the color of your panties? I am really sick of it all truly. A good man is out there I promise you, BUT YOU have to make the conscious descision to wait for him. Better yourself dang it!!
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suzie

posted 9/15/09 @ 9:42 AM CST

Originally posted by

kambo

 Crystall's elusive search for Mr. Right

Who doesn't like a good adventure? Crystal Lindell's notes on 'Why do good girls like bad boys?' does offer a challenge to a woman interested in winning the attention of a Cro-Magnon. And should her adventure be successful she will be able to applaud herself with the certainty she has raised her self-esteem by having snagged a dumb animal. But let's take a moment and reconsider the term 'nice guy 'and use 'gentleman' in its place. A gentleman will display the characteristics of honor, respect, courtesy and kindness to name a few. How is it, Crystal, you were unable to use these values in your description of a 'nice guy'. Were these values elusive to you? You and your friend's values denote a comfort zone more akin to the 'bad boy'. In there lies your security, hence, the attraction. It is not so comforting to have to step up to the values of a gentleman when you do not possess the knowledge. Stepping up requires the use of your intellect, not low morals and low self-esteem. I also take issue with your statement about woman who know what they want and feel it is worth waiting for are called losers and single mothers are immoral. On the contrary, these woman show conviction, confidence and courage, three more words you might want to consider. What astonishes me is that you believe a nice guy would want to recognize you with what you and your friends aspire to with your behavior and your twisted ideas of what makes a healthy relationship. Take some time for a little introspection, Crystal, and you might discover that your need to be abused is what attracts the 'bad boys' to you. The 'good guys' do not find anything sexy in abusive behavior or self-inflicted flagellation. So, Crystal, from a gentleman's perspective you are most likely where you belong with Mr. Wrong.
One of the nice guys


I just wanted to say that you really do have a great point there. I used to be attracted to the big brawny meathead party boys...and then I finally had a revelation. Why do I keep getting losers. Why? Because I'm not portraying the qualities I want in a man...a "good" man. So, I quit going to the bars when I got off work waitressing nights. Instead I went home. Since I didnt have to be at work til 4 pm, I went to the beach, started rollerblading, running, taking care of myself. Made new friends who had the same hobbies...and then poof...my dream guy finally popped up. :)
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BALDWINEXTERMINATOR9

posted 7/27/04 @ 1:09 PM CST

Crystall,

Your dilemma is nothing new.
For the record, there are "nice guys" out there who would jump at the chance to fall madly, passionately and hopelessly in love with you if you'd let them be more than "just friends".

As crazy as it may seem, "nice guys" wind up staying home alone on week-ends wondering why young ladies don't recognize their finer qualities.

You are incorrect in your statement that nice guys cheat.
If they do, they aren't so nice.

I was married to a wonderful woman for 20 years. I never cheated on her. Our relationship had passion, humor and mutual respect. After she passed away I was fortunate enough to marry again. I am striving to make my second chance just as successful.

Fortunately, both ladies believed that none of the rules we follow about the conventions of courtship need apply. They both looked past my physical shortcomings and found something in this "nice guy" to fall in love with.

Go ahead!!! Take a chance on a fellow who is truely a "nice guy" and you might be surprised. I suspect that there might be one closer than you think.
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murfe03

posted 7/28/04 @ 1:56 PM CST

Crystall I would have to say that this was the dumbest article that I have ever read. The whole nice guys finish last thing is really getting old and making me tired all over. Sounds like you should stop sitting around complaining about men that have scorned you in some way. You should write a new article titled, "Why I can't get laid by a normal man", by Crystall. It sounds to me like you just get a decent man because 1) Your attitude sucks (the whole hate man thing is so overplayed, just become a lesbian and leave us alone), let me tell you that is such a turn on to a man. A woman that wont stop complaining long enough to listen. 2) Your not very pretty. What do you expect, fabio? Maybe you should become nice and play the cards your dealt and date the guys you can. If you were halfway decent than a nice man might look at you. Call Finch, I bet he's still available, you remember him don't you.
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truth

posted 10/08/06 @ 11:37 PM CST

This has nothing to do with womens rights its no different for people dont make a logical choice when it comes to attraction you have no real choice but to go for some one who turns you on
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james meazell

posted 10/16/06 @ 8:10 PM CST

i have usually found that some of the so
called good girls are bad too.
thats why they like bad guys.
jim
jmeazell@yahoo.com
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A father of a 16 year old

posted 1/20/07 @ 8:50 PM CST

I was surfing the Internet regarding material that could help me with my gifted-honor roll student who is talking to a 18 year old who has a wrap sheet at 1:00 in the morning; well, thanks for your wonderful and true insight. This article is not only true but real.
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Adam Reckner

posted 5/31/07 @ 9:43 AM CST

I know how you feel about the whole good guy bad guy thing! My girlfriend just broke up with me for that reason because I was not a potential threat to her parents because they liked me! Her sister told me she is into the whole bad boy rebel thing, and it just pisses me off that these assholes are taking all the nice girls and turning them into whores, I was already inform that he wanted to have sex with her! But what can you do except be happy for them! I guess if you really love someone set them free!


Adam.
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Kyle

posted 5/03/08 @ 7:07 AM CST

Originally posted by

Adam Reckner

 I know how you feel about the whole good guy bad guy thing! My girlfriend just broke up with me for that reason because I was not a potential threat to her parents because they liked me! Her sister told me she is into the whole bad boy rebel thing, and it just pisses me off that these assholes are taking all the nice girls and turning them into whores, I was already inform that he wanted to have sex with her! But what can you do except be happy for them! I guess if you really love someone set them free!


Adam.



ADAM YOU SOUND LIKE SUCH A HOMO
MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY TALKING TO GUYS
BUT I AM THE KINDA GUY THAT TAKES YOUR GIRLFRIEND FROM YOU SO I DUNNO
LOOK MAN GIRLS JUST WANNA HAVE FUN AND BAD....IS FUN
AND I PROBLY WOULDNT TAKE YOUR GIRLFRIEND I DONT THINK A VERY GOOD LOOKING GIRL WOULD DATE YOU
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James Brockoff

posted 6/30/09 @ 5:54 AM CST

Originally posted by

Adam Reckner

 I know how you feel about the whole good guy bad guy thing! My girlfriend just broke up with me for that reason because I was not a potential threat to her parents because they liked me! Her sister told me she is into the whole bad boy rebel thing, and it just pisses me off that these assholes are taking all the nice girls and turning them into whores, I was already inform that he wanted to have sex with her! But what can you do except be happy for them! I guess if you really love someone set them free!


Adam.

Adam man I agree with you totally 100 percent, but i just think are we meant to turn into the bad guy. I dont know, and the guy who posted a comment above me is an ABSOULUTE FAGGOT, and I would beat to death with my family included.
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Josh

posted 8/18/09 @ 12:29 PM CST

[QUOTE id="d2250318-99da-4329-9999-608118cd944c"]I know how you feel about the whole good guy bad guy thing! My girlfriend just broke up with me for that reason because I was not a potential threat to her parents because they liked me! Her sister told me she is into the whole bad boy rebel thing, and it just pisses me off that these assholes are taking all the nice girls and turning them into whores, I was already inform that he wanted to have sex with her! But what can you do except be happy for them! I guess if you really love someone set them free!

I agree with you completely. I got dumped by my ex for a bad guy and now for all I know she is whoring around with all the guys she talked to during our relationship. She went from this sweet girl to this tight clothes tattooed slut. I love her. I miss her, but I gotta let her go. There is someone WAY better out there man. Wait for her.
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susie

posted 9/15/09 @ 9:52 AM CST

Originally posted by

Adam Reckner

 I know how you feel about the whole good guy bad guy thing! My girlfriend just broke up with me for that reason because I was not a potential threat to her parents because they liked me! Her sister told me she is into the whole bad boy rebel thing, and it just pisses me off that these assholes are taking all the nice girls and turning them into whores, I was already inform that he wanted to have sex with her! But what can you do except be happy for them! I guess if you really love someone set them free!


Adam.


Adam, I dont know who this d&%$#ebag is that commented that stupid junk, but he is def like one of the many "losers" i've dated...kid's got alot of growing up to do! I've moved on from bad BOYS, to MEN thankyouverymuch ;)
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da truth

posted 6/15/07 @ 3:17 AM CST

Because most women or good girls don't even notice nice guys and nice guys are to shy to say anything or as they old saying goes he is put in the "friend-zone" at least thats how it looks to me. Look at nature in general in the animal,reptile, or even insect world males pursue females,dominate male wins and in humans who spits the best game money or looks when,period.
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ageee

posted 7/17/07 @ 12:12 AM CST

Good girls like bad boys because guys brings ou the "hidden" thing in them...
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Vegard!

posted 9/12/07 @ 2:51 AM CST

I get so freaking anoyid when girls go after bad guys, then cry about it later... Its in my view that girls at the age of 11-20/21 want bad boys, and it is a response to the natural badboy beeing a "leader" inside a group of friends. Like what you can see in many animals. But when you grow up and get older, most woman will be attracted to the more "nice guys" because these guys are now the top of the food chain, they are offen well educated they make good money, and they are equal to anyone in their friends group as there is no pressure to who is the "coolest", It is really anoying for thoose of us who mature early as a man, guys normally wont turn out to be a good guy before hes 21 at the least, you can offen see guys beeing the young childish "badguy" until their past 25 but this is not so normal. There are thoose in the rare occasion(?) that never grows out of the badboy type of life, and there are those girls who never stop liking beeing treaded like crap, beeing hit or cheated on. As i was saying for guys like me who mature early, i am only 19 but when it comes to what i want in a woman it is something real, this makes it impossible for me to treat a girl like shit, not returning calls just to get laid... I hit on this girl, gave her my number... three days later she called me saying she found another badguy, he was all about her until he had sex with her, then he said he was not ready for anything real or serious. Damn it, i am a Nice guy, that does not make me so soft i wont stand up for you or myself, i workout every single day, i got a real nice natural tan, i can get the number to about anyone, get to the first date... But then they offen say i am not "bad" enough for them... All i can think then is, do you want me to hit you in the face spit on your face and make you watch me cheat?... thats just pittifull!
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RajunCajun

posted 9/14/07 @ 9:26 AM CST

Unwritten code: When a chick starts showing up to clean my apartment or do my laundry, she's outta here...

does that make me a bad boy?
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Mike

posted 9/17/07 @ 7:05 PM CST

Women don,t want a good guy, and if you do find a woman that says she has a good guy you will find a woman that is cheating on a good guy......Women want that feeling of being out of control,it turns them on big time. but when they want to come back to reality and feel like they are in control they want that good guy back... WOMEN AND MEN LIKE THE THRILL OF THE CATCH AND THE KILL.

That is just our animal instinct.
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Mike

posted 9/25/07 @ 11:39 PM CST

Simple,
Women are naturally attracted to "Alpha Males", bad boys are the classic alpha males.
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rubiez

posted 10/25/07 @ 12:44 PM CST

The reson why girls like the bad boys more is because that simply bad boys make noise and act like assholes by toching, flirting, kissing or spanking
girls, and to them its all a big joke.

on the other side thers good guys, that lose all the girls because of assholes.

when a girl meets an asshole, she totaly forgets about the nice guy that was ready to do any thing for her.

so don't give me "all the guys are assholes", the problem is that you chose to date an asshole, and don't give a care about good guys.

thats just my point of view...but how shuld i know? im a good guy and girls like assholes more.
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tim

posted 11/16/07 @ 12:59 PM CST

It is one thing for a woman to be attracted to bad boys is one thing; To each, there own, I always say.

I, however, cannot stand a girl who chooses to date a-holes, then pisses and moans about "all men" when the bad treats her badly. It is not my fault, nor the fault of any other man, that some women choose to date a-holes. When a bad boy treats a woman badly, he is merely continuing a way of behaving that works for him. It is no coincidence that words "bad boy" and "good man" are complete opposites.
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Ned Finkly

posted 11/22/07 @ 3:39 PM CST

Dear Crystal,
I agree. I don't enjoy gay people. That is immoral and wrong. I am a nice guy, recently widowed with a beautiful siamese cat named Zelda. The only problem is, is that she leaves her damn cookie crumbs all over the love seat. Any suggestions? Also I am a nice guy looking to bounce back from the whole death of my dead wife of 22 years. She was a lousy cook, I would rather eat broken nails wrapped in alluminum foil stuffed with dog excretions, but that is neither here nor there. I guess what I'm trying to say is that we're out there, and we are ready...are you?
Ned
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yo mamma

posted 12/11/07 @ 8:40 PM CST

girls like bad boyz because other girlz like them (a contest no girl wants to lose).
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George

posted 1/01/08 @ 9:09 PM CST

I'm under the impress girls like assholes. I was trying to date a 29 year old and she told m she was into the whole bad boy thing... I guess my sucessful career and being mature isn't good enough. She stated she only wants to be friends. Later I learned that the "bad boy" she is seeing is a contractor for Dupont and is married. How messed up is that. What makes her incredible stupid is this guy is inheritantly dishonest. She is a chemical engneer and you would think she would be smarter then that. Maybe the solution is to be dumb, drive jacked up pikcup trucks, and beat women around.
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Steve

posted 2/19/08 @ 8:12 PM CST

Women want their lives to be a soap opera box. Just like on tv. A simple life, with a nice guy is just to boring. I dont know how many times a woman has gotten totally ticked off at me for the toliet seat being up, no cap on the tooth paste etc. How stupid. They would rather have a guy beat the crap out of them, just so they can complain than a guy who treats them like a princess but leaves the cap off the tooth paste. . When there is nothing to complain about they go after you for the tooth paste. After that is over with they decide your to nice of a guy and send you packing. .
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al

posted 4/27/08 @ 2:16 PM CST

this goes into much more detail than just societies single rules, its possibly a psychological issue, or which i believe an intelligence one. clearly these women who got for bad guys are not thinking past the guys image, not knowing that he is likely to be broke, play them, and treat them with little or fake affection. so why do they go for them? becuase firstly they are usually white and stupid, secondly they're desperate, thirdly being hoes they can't say no to a dick. i first noticed the difference between white girls and most others, i went to a classy club called penthouse and the women were dressed like they knew how to be sexy without looking like a slut. but any girl can do that, the interesting bit is that the beautiful girls were with the ugliest guys, and all of these guys seemed good, but they were smarter and went for the money knowing that a better standard of living is more rewarding in the future as opposed to having a personality that will distract you from all other flaws possible in a bad boy. also i doubt these dirty girls can get a guy to stay with them for longer than one night, so they lower their standards and go for shit, cos it matches them. those classy girls were form the middle east by the way. black girls, no one wants them except black guys on the odd occasion but they have to much pride for the average black man so the black guys try the easier white girls. the proper girls are the ones you don't always meet in a club, you meet them through friends or work and get on with them as you would a friend rather than trying it on with them. that my friends is my biased opinion of why i think girls go for bad boys, becuase they don't have sense.
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Karen

posted 1/26/09 @ 12:06 PM CST

Originally posted by

al

 this goes into much more detail than just societies single rules, its possibly a psychological issue, or which i believe an intelligence one. clearly these women who got for bad guys are not thinking past the guys image, not knowing that he is likely to be broke, play them, and treat them with little or fake affection. so why do they go for them? becuase firstly they are usually white and stupid, secondly they're desperate, thirdly being hoes they can't say no to a dick. i first noticed the difference between white girls and most others, i went to a classy club called penthouse and the women were dressed like they knew how to be sexy without looking like a slut. but any girl can do that, the interesting bit is that the beautiful girls were with the ugliest guys, and all of these guys seemed good, but they were smarter and went for the money knowing that a better standard of living is more rewarding in the future as opposed to having a personality that will distract you from all other flaws possible in a bad boy. also i doubt these dirty girls can get a guy to stay with them for longer than one night, so they lower their standards and go for shit, cos it matches them. those classy girls were form the middle east by the way. black girls, no one wants them except black guys on the odd occasion but they have to much pride for the average black man so the black guys try the easier white girls. the proper girls are the ones you don't always meet in a club, you meet them through friends or work and get on with them as you would a friend rather than trying it on with them. that my friends is my biased opinion of why i think girls go for bad boys, becuase they don't have sense.


Well aren't you a racist, sexist, piece of shovenistic pig shit? maybe you should check the mirror and realize that you can't get a date is because you are too busy judging every girl you see in a crowded room... maybe those girls who date men for their money, etc are doing so because they have been fucked over so many times by the men that have been with that they realized that going for someone for more than looks or personality will give them more happiness than heartache in the end... Gosh.. you are just a terrible person, you should do everyone a favor and not talk ever again
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Leroy

posted 4/28/08 @ 5:00 AM CST

Well, It seems through some bit of experience (and an interesting marriage) that there's a balance. If you ARE indeed a nice guy, make sure you're not a pushover. By that I mean don't always be at a chicks heel whenever she needs. BE YOURSELF. I know that's an old one, but it's true. The stuff that pisses you off on a normal day should still piss you off when you're with the woman (or women), so they know you are (A) being true to yourself and (B) you are very much capable of standing up for yourself and ripping someone's head off. Some women will try your temper sometimes 'jus cause, and gauge you accordingly. In a nutshell, Be strong. Earn Respect. You can still be a "nice guy," and be an ass sometimes. It's a delicate balance, but it's there. I by no means am saying to beat up women when I say "be an ass," I'm saying don't get pushed around. You'd be surprised how somethings work out. I am not claiming to be an expert by any means, this is based on what I've seen and been through.
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Brad

posted 4/28/08 @ 9:56 PM CST

It's got more to do with psychological issues, past experiences to be specific, than social issues. Every girl (that I know) has been shafted by a complete a$$hole multiple times in her life. Every time it happens, the guy is nice to her in the beginning, then after he gets what he wants, he's gone like Jimmy Hoffa. I should know since I used to be that way. These types of experiences make women leery of any guy who is nice and respectful. Since college, I've done a complete 180 and become an actual "nice guy." Has it paid off? Absolutely not and it's because of the experiences that all (I'm generalizing here) women have had with guys who put on a nice guy front. Age has a bearing on this issue too. It seems as though women my age (I'm 25) and younger don't want anything serious. Just a friend with benefits or the occasional one night stand will keep them happy.
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David S.

posted 5/26/08 @ 11:33 AM CST

Some of the girls (certainly not all, but a lot) that say they don't like the bad guys along with the bad treatment are like bulemics and anorexics looking in the mirror. They can be skin and bone and they see a fat girl in the mirror.

When they see the nice guy in the mirror, it is ho-hum. Maybe a friend.
When they see the bad guy in the mirror, they go straight to him.
If the good guy hurts them it is a betrayal of confidence.
WHEN the bad guy hurts them there is no betrayal, they knew it was going to happen all along, no disappointment.

If you try to tell them that they do this, they will tell you that you are wrong. And to them they are right because when they look in the mirror they see a girl who doesn't tolerate bad treatment and they see a bad guy who reflects like a good guy in their mirror. The good guy reflects like furniture.

You know this is true when a girl keeps going for the bad guys over and over, and all the time saying it is a myth.
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Kevin

posted 8/13/08 @ 12:02 AM CST

Crystal Lindell you said-"Sex with these men isn't even that great for most women" I think you need more proof of this statement. Did you ask all you friends how the sex is and did they all say it was absolutely horrible?

"but for most an orgasm from sex is about as likely as me voting for Bush." Ok I understand what your saying here, but are you honestly blaming bad boys for "not being experienced enough" to make you orgasm? Why is it the mans fault that you didn't orgasm? There have been studies that prove women and men have difficulty having an orgasm, but its much more common in women. Here are a few sites that would prove this true.
http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/1838.html
I would trust this site the author is a sex expert
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7481
this site suggest it be genes that play a role in a womens orgasm
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=10793
this is a medical site explaining how its linked to your genes and how 32% of women infrequently or never had an orgasm. That is almost nearly 1 in 3 women. You could be that one in 3rd gal saying you don't orgasm because of your man.
http://health.ninemsn.com.au/asktheexperts/expert2.aspx?id=109221
Dr Gabrielle Morrissey is a sexologist who also explains how women have the problem with their orgasm.

So please do not take this to be offensive, I want to have a constructive discussion. By the way, I'm no sex expert, but I think its incorrect to say bad boys are the total reason for some of these things. Studies do prove otherwise. Other then that I would like to commend you for the well written articles.I agree with some of your other points. I personally think women like to be around bad boys because of the adventure. Bad boys can be fun and exciting at times.

-Kevin
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Incubus

posted 8/19/08 @ 1:31 PM CST

I researched this question on Google and, to my luck, found this.

It is interesting to see all the repsonses, especially to hear viewpoints from the "nice guys". I would have to agree with several points made, but I won't ramble on about them.

As for Crystal's situation, you should not have to stay with a "bad boy" if you are independent. If a woman is strong enough to stand by herself she would not have to depend on someone else for financial aid, or whatever other problems that might arise. Simply because you yourself make a wrong choice doesn't mean you can just blame it on someone else --- even if they are a bad person --- because you have, and had, a choice all along.
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Daniel with class

posted 8/28/08 @ 1:35 AM CST

Ok guys u waNT TO GET LAID????? WELL STOP BEING NICE.... SHIT U HAVE TO BE A BAD ASS... GO GET SOME TATTOOS... BUY A BIKE.... DONT TAKE A SHOWER FOR LIKE A WEEK AND WHAT WILL U HAVE U?????? A FUCKIN BROKE ASS WANNA BE..... BUT SERIOUSLY.. GIRLS DONT THINK LOGICALLY.. AND MAN WITH TWO CENTS KNOWS THAT...... JUST MAKE A GIRL LAUGH... I THINK THAT GOES AS ANY GUY.. ALSO TAKE UR FAT ASS TO THE GYM.. NO GIRL WANTS TO BE WITH THE FAT ASS... ASK URSELF... SO U WANT THE FAT CHICK??? HELL NO..!! U WANT THE SEXY THING IM HIGH HEELS WITH LONG LEGS WEARING THAT DRESS THAT HUGS HER HIPS AND TIGHT ASS...... OK SO GIRLS R THE SAME WAY... TURN THEM ON WITH YOUR CHARM... NOT SAYING YEAH IM THIS IM THAT.. IF THAT REALLY MATTERS WHY DO HOT GIRLS GET WITH BUM ASS GUYS????? EXACTLY.... STOP BING A PUSSY...... TELL THAT GIRL WHAT TO DO...... TAKE HER OFF HER COMFOT ZONE.... DONT CALL HER FOR A COUPLE DAYS.. ALL GIRLS KNOW U JUST WANT TO GET IN THEIR PANTS SO BE SNEAKY... BE FUNNY..... AND U WILL BE REWARDED...... AND STOP BEING A SLOB.. DRESS UR ASS NICE..... FUCK... STOP DRESSING LIKE YOUR IN THE 80S....
PNE THING O FORGOT... U HAVE TO BE CONFIDENT..... GIRLS DONT WANT A PUSSY.. THEY WANT A STRONG MAN..... IF U LOOK TUFF THEY THINK U WILL BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THEIR U KNOW WHAT...... SO MAN UP .. STOP BEING THE BITCH.. SINCE SWITCHING FROM NICE GUY TO NOT NICE GUY I SCORD WAY MORE LADIES....
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Mike Dud

posted 8/29/08 @ 1:27 PM CST

Geeeh! I guess they are good lucky guys in the rigth time at the wrigth moment and with some dollars in top that will do it. Few factors play in such spectrum to make it happen, I guess. Good post, absolutly.Oh Brotherrrr...
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Not Born Yesterday

posted 9/04/08 @ 9:08 AM CST

Sexist idiot. You only go for men who are high up in the mail hierarchy, and complain that they are domineering and self absorbed. Well guess what, to be the big man on compus you have to be domineering and self absorbed. Look for someone that you think is "Beneath You" you arrogant fool.
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anonymous

posted 9/28/08 @ 11:29 AM CST

It's funny how women always seem to like the good guys but are always dating the bad guys. When a bad guy bullies a good guy she's like 'awww dont do that' but seconds later she's fucking him in bed. Or when a good guy sacrifices his seat so she can sit him down, she sees him a 'true gentlemen' yet she's still with the bad guy.

I guess at the end of the day they just want a thrill, they want an advenure, they want to live life on a rollercoaster edge, it has its up and downs but its an entertaining ride.

Sure, they want to be treated nicely (to an extent bad guys give them that) but you can't be too nice, women never date the men that are too nice. Even if they do date nice guys, they must have a bad boy edge to themselves. YOu tell a girl you have 4 As, and then tell her your on the run for the police and look at her reaction.

Good guys never win, why? I don't know, I guess women want a guy that beats them and doesn't give a fuck about them, I guess its 'fun'
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amr

posted 10/04/08 @ 2:22 AM CST

Hi,
To the writer of that article:
how are you? hope u fine
first thing i want to say that there are really good guys and i mean it reall good guys that never cheat or even think to do but there is something important there.
how you measure that a guy is good ?? may be your view for that is completly wrong
anyway to not write a lot want to end my words with
if you will stick out with Mr wrong :D trust me Mr right will never care.
from Mr right lool JK
i'm a guy, 22 years
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anonymous

posted 10/04/08 @ 6:20 AM CST

are you lesbian or what and not all nice guys get the shaft or unless the girls are stupid to get those kind of guys....
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Robert

posted 10/18/08 @ 3:58 PM CST

Extremely Bad Guys: stinky, non educated, most likely stupid, they don't care about their life, they think life is short and you need to live it, they just want to have fun and give a fuck on everything, they don't have morals or manners perhaps.

Girls like them for the thrill, the excitement, love, short life term, these girls can be stupid too, non educated.

Bad Guys: clean, smart, non educated, care about their look and feel, can be small criminal gangsters.

Girls like these guys because of the thrill, but those girls thinking is at a higher level, education is not important factor, criminal actions seems not serious enough and the mind's reaction is taken as "fun".

Good Guys: Clean or Dirty, Smart or Stupid, these guys have morals while bad guys do not, this is 100% true. Forget about the other facts that were mentioned:
1. Hot girls like hot boys, ugly dirty don't care
2. love can take big decisions
3. money can be found on both sides, criminal money vs real money for example
4. good guys vs bad guys, both can have bikes or whatever and both good guys can take parts of the bad guys side, but only at the looking aspect.

So for me, bad guys are just .. bad, inside. and good guys are just good, inside.
So why girls like the bad inside and not the good? or why do you think more good girls like bad boys?

because most of the good girls are actually bad and not good. They only pretend to be good, on the outside, to attract viewers, they know if they will be bad it will mean a slut, and for them it's bad. so if you see good girl that can be maybe smart, (educated), clean, happy and it looks like she will date only a good guy, but when it comes to relationships it can be only with the bad guy, in bad she will want to be comed on her, she will want to feel the thrill, she will want to be beaten, she wont care or do much if some one dies, she has low morals, etc. sometimes when a girl has this pretending for a very long time, she can change herself, and that means in the ages of 25-30 when she needs to be married, she can change.

Now good girls do exist, but rare to find, because: bad girls can be bad in the outside too, but can also be good in the outside and bad in the inside. however, good girls that are really good, can't be bad inside.

so a girl can pretend she has morals while she does not
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Power Metal

posted 11/02/08 @ 4:21 AM CST

Only the good die young
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Phil

posted 11/02/08 @ 4:27 AM CST

Only the good die young
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Anonymous

posted 12/01/08 @ 3:00 PM CST

I had a girlfriend for 5 years. I waited 4 of those years for her to be "ready" to lose her virginity. I bought her expensive gifts for holidays and birthdays, I took her on romantic dates, I truly treated her like a princess in every way possible. She was the only woman in my eyes and I NEVER even though about cheating on her. I bought her a wedding ring from Tiffany's that cost me 2 years salary and I was about to buy her dream house. She met a guy at work, cheated on me with him 2 days later, and moved in with him 5 days later. He is an alcoholic, does all kinds of drugs, he is 26 and has a minimum wage job, he has kicked her out twice (It's only been 1.5 months), and they had sex after she had known him for 2 weeks...it took me 4 years. So don't say all guys are the same and don;t make it look like girls are all victims. I am a genuinely nice guy and i got screwed over for the typical asshole that you say girls don't volunteer to be with.
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B

posted 12/25/08 @ 5:21 AM CST

not all guys who appear to be gay are.
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Joee

posted 1/13/09 @ 4:18 PM CST

Ok i dont knnow what sgoing on wit this world and all these whores here!! its funny to me that gurls do like the bad ones but I am a nice good guy who has never cheated on his woman! but i have learned many ways of pickin uup women the prob is is that i dunt have a place to F%$k them so thats another issue but take my advise for you GOOD GUYS out there like me!! DUN SHow WEakNEss Act LIke U Own the place and actlike u OWN HEr!! i have been through soo many relationships and they ahve all cheated on me! but after that I have just fed up wit the way women are so i changed too AND U SHOULD TOO! and the 25 of age thing of when they start wanting a good guy! THAT MUHFUCKIN GOOD GUY WILL BE ABAD GUY BY THE TIME U WANT HIM TO BE A GOOD GUY! So To ALl YOU women 25-and below GROW THE FUCK UP AND STOP BEING TAKIN ADVANTAGE OF! CAuse seirously 89^% OF Women Here In Vancouver Are FUCKIN STUPID AS FUCKIN DOOR NOBS! AND IM DEAD FUCKIN SERIOUS!!

GURL WANTS A BAD GUY U TREAT HER LIKE A WHORE CAUSE THATS THEW AY THEY ARE IF THEY WANT A BAD GUY!! SHit look at me im still a nice guy but Im Tired Of women Runnin ME over! MAN UP BOYS SEIROUSLY THE BITCHEZ WONT CHANGE BELIEVE ME! WOMEN 25 and below are fuckin STIUPID!! u have to be smart! and NOt all Good GUys are weak ITS U WOMEN THAT ARE WEAK FOR THINKING WEAK OF ANOTHER MAN!! HAHA GOOD LUCK FINDING MR RIGHT U DUMB BRODS CAUSE ALL OF US GOOD GUYS WILL BE LONG GONE WIT SOMEONE ELSE WHILE UR WIIT THAT FAT FUCK GET UR ASS KICKED FOR NO REASON!! GOOD LUCK WHORES!!
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anny

posted 1/15/09 @ 7:36 PM CST

I always wanted a nice guy even if I know their problems include the following: never saying no to others, not having a backbone, not treating you as well as their guy friends. But I have to say nice guys are worse than bad boys.You will find out after you go out w/ them about what an act their 'niceness' is.
With a bad boy or really a flawed one what you see is what you get. You don't have to pick the murderer. You can pick the black sheep, the guy who everybody eyes w/ suspicion. After all those other people who claim other guys are bad are the sheep of society. But they never look at their sins.
If you don't want deceit bad boy is the better bet. I have been hurt by nice guys everytime.
But I have never gotten hurt by a bad boy. They're not bad usually you know either he drinks, screams alot or sleeps around. They are not all dogs in fact they give men a better name. Of all the men who were kind to me all of them were so called 'bad boys' that everyone else looks down upon. You have no clue. If I wanted the shock of my life and to end up in a nuthouse I'd hook up w/ a nice guy in anywhere from 6 months to 2 years he will give you the shock of your life. You shouldn't never trust nice guys it is all in your head. Besides they would never stand up to you when someone else is trying to badmouth you. Bad boy will set them straight.
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